The TC grip I had been referring to was the 'authentic' that had the deep Slash where your hand Net rests, it gave fairly a Chunk. The two TC's I have now are definitely the afterwards (larger sized 'humpback' variety) grips that handle recoil a lot better, not a dilemma in the thirty-thirty, 35 Rem. and 375 Get. barrels I have.Other folks make the